by icycalm » 20 Aug 2017 17:08
icycalm
"Massive scale massively-multiplayer real-time strategy is a niche of a niche of a niche."
That's a line from my first Cosmic War article
Who can figure out the three niches?
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
you only say 3 things...
icycalm
Which are?
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
Massive scale / massively-multiplayer / real-time strategy
icycalm
Close, but not quite right
The first niche is strategy
The vast majority of people do not like that
The second niche is the real time
The vast majority of strategy players do not like that
The third niche is the massively multiplayer aspect
The vast majority of RTS players do not like that
Essentially, only graduates of military academies like this sort of thing, or are any good at it, or people who would have done well there if they had chosen that path of life
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
i doubt i would be suitable for a military academy
icycalm
You run the smallest clan
And you played one game
And you turtled the whole game
QED
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
i can go into quite the detail about that but that says nothing qbout this
icycalm
To me it does
For example, it says that I or diskraip or Elite would do better in a military academy than you
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
you?
icycalm
I bring the most people, on average
People follow me
And they listen to me
So yes, me
Let's play a 7v2 and I'll show you
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
an established clan of multiple years old has more members then a random group of friends who have a very specific clan, what a surprise
icycalm
It's no surprise
Nor is it a surprise that Belgium could never beat Germany in a war
The fact that you fail to grasp elementary military facts merely underscores how inferior you would be as a leader
i.e. the fact that "bigger is better" and so on
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
how is bigger better?
icycalm
Okay, I am going back to bed
I don't have time for this stupid shit
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
you deleting my comments does not make the excuse less bad
icycalm
One more stupid comment and you are banned from my Discord
[VOC] Michiel de Ruyter
"stupid comment"
icycalm
Goodbye
GuestUserNameGUN
What just happened
icycalm
A nerd got banned because he can't seem to grasp basic facts about life and the universe
It happens at least a dozen times a week here
GuestUserNameGUN
Yeah, i get how it goes
i admin on like 3 other servers
You can't have people disrespecting your authority in your server, completely understandable
icycalm
It's not merely that
It's that I REALLY don't have time for stupid conversations
So whoever brings them here has to go
GuestUserNameGUN
Yeah fair enough
Your server, your rules
icycalm
I tried messaging him, but we don't share a server, so I can't
Can you give him a message for me?
GuestUserNameGUN
You can join the PA community center discord, he is in that
but sure
icycalm
"You are still welcome in our events as long you and I do not have to discuss anything at length ever again"
I left the PA community discord because several of its admins and their friends trolled my event
I would have left the PA forum too if it wasn't necessary for the health of the events, for now
GuestUserNameGUN
Doesn't really help the game if the community is trolling each other
icycalm
There is a sizeable number of players who WANT our events to fail
It is incredible
But I am convinced this is how it is now
GuestUserNameGUN
Why?
icycalm
Why I am convinced, or why they want our events to fail?
GuestUserNameGUN
Why they want it to fail
icycalm
Eh
I think two reasons
1. They are mostly 1v1 players who hate large games
And they also don't have much of a social life
So the PA Discord and community ARE their social lives
And they've been lording it in there as the coolest guys around ever since the game died and all the clans left
And suddenly the clans are back
And there is an organizer who makes fun of their boring little 1v1s (edited)
And they fear that they won't be the coolest kids on the block for much longer
So that's the main reason
and 2.
somewhat connected to the first (edited)
is that I am actively pushing them away because I can't stand their stupid ideas and opinions
if I was nicer to them, they would be nicer too
but I CAN'T be nicer to such SHEER STUPIDITY
God help me I can't
So there you have it, and nothing can be done about it
GuestUserNameGUN
Huh, alright
The politics here are very interesting
icycalm
The game is even more interesting
I've been studying nerd psychology online since 2005
It is boring to me by now
I just want to play huge PA games, and would appreciate if everyone who stands in the way of that got the hell out of the way (edited)
GuestUserNameGUN
It seems like you need to set a firm grip on it from the start
As in
People don't realise that you aren't interested in their opinions
so they offer them
they get mad when you don't like it
and it spirals down and down
icycalm
I am interested in SOME opinions
Elite's for example
Even Gitaxian has said a couple of things I can use
The other thing, with a lot of the 1v1 players, is that they just don't realize that we are talking about a different subgenre
Just because it says PLANETARY ANNIHILATION in our streams does not mean it is the same subgenre THEY are playing
PA is a game of huge range
From tiny 1v1s smaller than StarCraft, to wars that have never been seen before on a screen
GuestUserNameGUN
Yeah, i prefer the larger games tbh cause there is so much more going on
icycalm
So whoever doesn't like the huge games should not even be paying any attention to us at all, never mind offering misguided opinions on them
But the scene is so small, and so dead, that any event is bound to attract attention
GuestUserNameGUN
Yeah
icycalm
Anyway, things are improving from week to week
We've already seen one or two clans drop off that don't like large games
Or that weren't even clans in the first place
GuestUserNameGUN
damn
icycalm
To me it is a good thing
Yesterday's war was so much nicer without half a dozen people screaming in the chat for half the game, or the constant fear that some sore loser would Ragnarok the game
icycalm
And we got a ton of lag with merely 4 clans present
What would have happened with 8?
GuestUserNameGUN
Yeah, big games are cool, but man do they cause a fuck ton of lag
on my PC i did a massive game with AI just to create some cool battles, and sim speed was running at around 0.1
icycalm
In the end, the clans (or "clans") that don't like the format drop off, and those that do, and commit to showing up every week, get a better, less laggy experience as a result
GuestUserNameGUN
tru
icycalm
I am going to copy-paste all the above to the forum, because it will help a lot of people understand some things
GuestUserNameGUN
Maybe change it slightly so it's shorter and gets to the point more
Cause this is more of a conversation, not an informational post
icycalm
Nah, people like drama, so they can have all of it
You said yourself you like the politics, so here is the uncut version